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Wednesday, 8 May 2013

Facebook’s Leftist Snobs Adore Muslims & Hate the Working Class





There's group of Hope Not Hate enablers of Islam and Muslims who're permanently on a Facebook page called ‘We Know HowYou Feel About Your So-Called Prophet’. (They also “struggle” against “Islamophobia”, “fascism” and “racism” on many other FB pages too; as well as contributing to Hope Not Hate’s website and EDL News.)

One Hope Not Hate Crew member is Gilly Levett-Carpenter (right). She’s another outright middle-class (possibly upper-middle-class) Leftist snob (like Gary Hastings – or Alan Moon) who despises the working class so much that she over-exaggerates her love for it. She's Hope Not Hate, or at least she can be found on the pages of its website; just as she can be found posting Hope Not Hate links on Facebook.

She, like Hastings, pretends it's just EDL members – as well as all the members of all patriotic groups - she thinks are crude and unsophisticated. I bet it’s actually the vast majority of the working class she despises: all except the obviously Leftist or “anti-racist” ones of course. (See the unashamed and relentless middle-class snobbery to be found on Gary, now “Gazza”, Hastings’ EDL News.)

Gilly Levett-Carpenter (the name sort of gives it away) is a product of private school. She’s also a (Leftist) snob who parades her qualifications at every available opportunity.

She defends Islam and Muslims no matter what. That’s her job. So, if you post something that challenges her Leftism, or her unquestioning faith in Islam’s good nature, she will either attack you personally or indulge in snobby middle-class sarcasm. (Sometimes these people have even talked about posts being “without structure” – something their university tutors or professors probably said to them.)  Anyway, they do anything but debate politics.

In this case, in a piece I posted which explicitly states that other people had noted the fusion of Leftism and Nazism/fascism, she commented:

Gilly Levett-Carpenter: “…. You haven't accidentally stumbled upon the Holy Grail or anything. It's something known and recognised for many decades.”

Of course I didn’t say it was original. I didn’t even hint that it was the Holy Grail. As I said, the piece itself says that other people have noted the point.  In addition, vast swathes of the Left, despite what she says, do deny outright such connections/fusions between Leftism and Nazism.

This is from Gilly Levett-Carpenter’s Facebook page, which I think she has now changed since I posted something about it:

GILLY LEVETT-CARPENTER

Work and Education:

Roehampton University
Psychoanalytic Observational Studies • Master's Degree • London, United Kingdom
University of Sussex, UK
BSc Clinical Child Psychology • Brighton
BSc (Hons) Sociology • Sheffield
Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust
MSc Socio-cognitive Symbolic Communication • London, United Kingdom


Godolphin and Latymer

The Godolphin and Latymer School “is an independent day school for girls in Hammersmith, West London” (left). This is the school Gilly went to. No wonder she simply adores the working class.


Another contributor (not as Trotskyist as the rest, more old-school unrepentant Communist) even defended Gilly’s and his own privileged backgrounds:

Peter Kalve:  “I'm still trying to work out why Daniels is attacking private school types like Gilly and I, and state school friends. What on earth is the point of all this?



“Do I think private education is wrong? Yes. Not because of the quality of education, but because of the inequality which prevents equal opportunities for all. Do I despise state education? Absolutely not. State education is fantastic and vital. It offers equal opportunities for all and is therefore superior to private education.”

Peter Kalve has benefitted from private school and its “quality of education”. And now, like Owen Jones of The Independent who went to Oxford University and now wants to abolish it, he wants to end private schools. That’s called pulling up the ladder after you have climbed it. And it’s what numerous middle-class Leftists have done over the years. Hell, many of them still send their kids to private schools and they too end up at Oxbridge (“wherever that is”).

These people want to sustain the often, but not always, substandard education of the comprehensive schools precisely so that they can keep their privileged positions and so carry on either condescending the working class; or, like Gary Fieness Hastings (Alan Moon) and Levett-Carpenter, constantly aim sarcastic and snobby remarks  at them. (Unless that working-class person is a Leftist; and then he or she will be excused from such snobbery.)

Another member of The Hope Not Hate Facebook Crew is Esther Angel (left).

She responded to an image, on ‘We Know How You Feel about Your So-Called Prophet’, of Muslim women, in burkas, being led in chains. On first impression, it seemed quite disturbing. However, Esther Angel, commented in this way:

Esther Angel: “Context, Alan? Where is this picture from? What country, etc.?”

Now after that comment, Esther and her Islam-Enabling Team (formerly the Working-Class Enabling Team) must have got to work on this image to find out what it's about. (I’m not sure how they're doing this but there are probably more people in this team that the regular contributors. Perhaps Hope Not Hate, a group whose links they often provide on the Facebook page.)

A little while later, the reality of this image had still not been passed on to her, when she commented:

Esther Angel: “… How about which country, why are they in chains, why is the woman on the left looking so worried, what the hell is going on here? That kind of thing. Where is the report that this photo was taken from? Which credible news outlet released this photo?”

Later still, she still didn’t know:

Esther Angel: “My point is that it is hard to state an opinion when you do not have any available information on this. Provide me that from credible sources and I will tell you what my opinion is. So far I can say the woman on the left looks very anxious, don't you think?”

And then she makes her discovery, which she didn’t even hint at earlier. In other words, what she’s about to say she had absolutely no idea about earlier. But just listen to her confident talk about the Ottoman Empire and stuff:

Esther Angel:  “From what I can find on various Arabic pages doing a reverse image search is that this is a re-enactment from the Ottoman Empire and it is theatre, not a real event.”

And then either she was fed the information, or she has done some research herself, which is commendable. She the cuts-and-pastes this:

Esther Angel: “Play acting The Day of Ashura (Arabic: عاشوراء ʻĀshūrā’; Urdu: عاشورہ; Persian: عاشورا; Turkish: Aşure Günü) is on the 10th day of Muharram in the Islamic calendar and marks the climax of the Mourning of Muharram….”

In a certain sense, it didn’t matter if the image was false or misinterpreted because she'd have still defended it in some way even if it wasn’t. That’s her job on this Facebook page. (She could be lying about this image after all. Yes, Ashura exists in Shia Islam, but is this an image from such a thing?)

Esther Angel and The Hope Not Hate Crew support Islam and Muslims no matter what. And if they support Islam and Muslims no matter what, then few people will accept what they say; even if it’s true. Especially since they support Islam/Muslims as a matter of Leftist racism: a racism that says that

Muslims can never be criticised because that must be racism.

These people are extremist supporters of Islam and all Muslim behaviour. That support is their sole purpose for being on ‘We Know How You Feel about Your So-Called Prophet’. Their extremism displays itself by their see-no-Muslim-evil approach. If they want to kid themselves, and others, that all criticism of Islam is "racist" or "fascist", then they can keep on doing so.... But few people will believe them. And perhaps they don't even believe it themselves.

It all boils down to one thing: their fight against ostensible "racism" and “fascism”. This means that they will often talk bullshit and defend the indefensible. These people, because of their racist anti-racism (brown people can't do wrong), have defended the following things: Muslim grooming, Islamic terrorism, Muslim misogyny, Islamic imperialism, Muslim racism, Islamic fascism... and all because Muslims have brown skin and therefore must be both “oppressed” and the eternal victims of evil white people. (Not themselves, though, they’re middle class and Leftist.)

So I wonder what they think of the 100+ passages in the Koran which explicitly sanction violent jihad. What about Islam's 1,300 year old jihad? And can they stop themselves replying: "WHATABOUT the Old Testament?"

These Facebook Leftists are consistently "lying for justice" and distorting things in order to fight racism. That means that no matter what someone posts that is critical of Islam or Muslims, they'll criticise it. (Whether Hope Not Hate has sent them to these pages I don't know.)... They'll never accept any criticism of Islam because such criticisms, to them, simply must be racist or fascist. And that's why they defend the indefensible and come out with obvious bullshit... That's also partly why they engage in endless snobby sarcasms and personal attacks.

They also believe in defeating "racism", “Islamophobia” and "fascism", as the Leftist soundbite goes, "by any means necessary". So if we “Islamophobes” are so damned evil (not a word they would use), then defending the indefensible is acceptable to them, and so too is lying for Justice.

Michele Foucault once said that Leftists are “obliged to stand behind facts that are totally beyond credibility”. This is Leftist self-abasement and a knowing subversion of truth. It's a self-annihilation for the sake of their group/party and the fight against “Islamophobia”. It's also, in fact, the ubiquitous Leftist position of lying for Justice.

I mentioned the two strategies of The Hope Note Hate Crew: endless snobby sarcasm and personal attacks. Look at Garry Feinnes Hastings’ EDL News. The whole thing is utterly devoted to the bad behaviour of EDL members. There's no politics there. No discussion. No analysis. Just endless snobbery against EDL supporters. But don't be fooled. These middle-class Leftist also hate the working-class generally. That's why, traditionally, Leftists have both wanted to change the working class and to lead it towards revolution... or, today, towards Islamisation. Left-wing members of the working class are of course saved souls to them. They won’t be the victims of such Leftist middle-class snobbery – at least not openly.


26 comments:

  1. Well written and a good exposure of the left wing socialites who deem themselves above others. Patriots who gather under the EDL banner or any other will never be silenced by these morons and grow in unity to fight back against the corruption in government and society that puts these reprobates and extremists above the normal working classes of this Country. keep up the good work

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    1. The funny thing is that in response to this piece, Gaza Hastings has carried on with his snobbery regardless. He says that I "write for fascists with O Level English and the rest go to Casuals United". The snobbery of this man is unbelievable. How does he get away with it?

      The Left has always hated the working class but in the old days they hid it. Now that they can patronise Muslims instead all that latent snobbery has been let loose... The only working class who can escape are those who embrace Hastings' Leftism - and I bet even that won't guarantee they will be free of his snobbery. He just won't let them see it.

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    2. That's crap the left ARE THE WORKING CLASS

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    3. If the Left are the working class, why are they all unemployed living in mom's basement?

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  2. Damn . . you left me off!! :(
    *must try harder*

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    1. Yet more Leftist sarcasm. One day they will engage in political debate. But they can't do that. They can't because they have a No Platform Policy towards everyone - I mean everyone - on the Right. If they debate, if they can debate at all (and some of them are pretty thick), that would be like "endorsing" the Right. That's why they hack Facebook sites. That's why the "report abuse" to Facebook. That's why they ban groups from speaking at universities. That's why all their attacks are personal and usually involve snobby comments about uncouth and common members of the working class (except left-wing ones, of course)...

      All this has to lead to the Gulag... "There is no Gulag." But that's only because these Leftist totalitarians and deniers of free speech haven't got the political power they need to bring the British Gulag about. If they had the power... if they had the power

      That's why these people should be fought against.

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  3. Wow...am I reading this for real? Whoever you writing this crap, really should post screenshots of the FULL convo instead of just writing shit without anything solid to back it up...like the image of women in Burkhas for example...Esther never once wrote that she defended violence...neither of us, prove it or shut it, instead of twisting people's words around. No wonder the majority of the UK & oh the majority of the world thinks the far-right are a joke...

    But very ironic you should write that she & others defend violence when clearly groups like the EDL have insigated violence & racism towards non-whites across the UK...so many videos of evidence from undercover people-oh and not to mention screenshots from FB of EDL supporters expressing violence towards "commies"-exposing the truth behind the EDL.

    I remember once when EDLers called Malala Yousafzai a "brown piece of shit" or when Hel Gower tweeted her approval of Adam Lanza shooting school kids in the U.S. all the screens are still there...
    peaceful? Non-violent? Not racist? LOL nothing but a bad, bad, joke...EXPECT US!

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    1. Anonymous Advocate,

      I didn't post the women in burkas. My point was the Esther Angel defended it BEFORE she found out what it was. That's if you're on about that.

      I'm not EDL anyway. I'm not leadership or even a local leader. I defend the EDL, though, and for many reasons.

      But I do not defend any EDL member who is violent or who even encourages violence on the Internet.

      'Expect us'? Are you an Antifa-type? That is, do you replicate, in every way, the violence and machismo of genuine Nazis, even down to using hip skulls and emblems? You Anti-types are as violent as any Nazis and believe similar things too. In fact, I know of many people who have swapped sides from the Nazis to Antifa or vice versa.You are the same people but with different badges and t-shirts.

      So what do you mean by 'expect us!'? You're not talking to a Nazi thug here. But I bet you wish you were! I'm not going to out-do your Leftist machismo with my own 'far right' machismo. I think you may be mistaking me for someone else. I think you're mistaking me for a straw target.

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    2. Nope, got any screenshots? Genuine proof? No, I didn't think so..it's just your word..you're a unreliable source by that.

      If you can't put two & two together "Expect us" orginates with Anonymous..hence the use of the words & the name...so nice try trying to "expose me as Antifa".

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    3. "In fact, I know of many people who have swapped sides from the Nazis to Antifa or vice versa"

      Again...any proof? Nope & don't pretend you're some sort of "moderate right-winger" the very fact that you support EDL for starts which is a extreme-right VIOLENT HATE group, known for violence & racism, proves otherwise.

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    4. How can you have screenshots for things that have already happened – two months or so ago? I’ve already said that I didn’t do screenshots because the quotes I gave were admitted to. Ask the people who said them. ‘Proof’, anyway, only exists in mathematics and logic; not even in science. If I had evidence of Esther Angel on a Hope Not Hate page that still wouldn’t be ‘proof’ because all she’d say is that she simply visited that page, as she does EDL pages. There is never ‘proof’, only evidence.

      I didn’t say you were Antifa. I said you were an ‘Antifa-type’. Try reading things before you go off on one otherwise you will embarrass yourself. You can be an Antifa-type without being Antifa, just as you can be a Tory-type without voting Tory.

      Did I expose you as Antifa? Not really. You have been on Facebook too long. That sounds like you may be against Antifa. What’s your position on Antifa and why do you use a fake name? I don’t recall your name on Alan Cleverley’s page anyway. Are you Gary Hastings, or Gary Moon, or whoever?

      I know that lots of teenagers like Anonymous because of the hip mask and stuff but how do you get round the fact that there are loads of Anonymous groups, some of which believe contradictory things? Did you know that there’s an Anonymous counter-jihad group?

      "In fact, I know of many people who have swapped sides from the Nazis to Antifa or vice versa"

      ‘Proof’ again? Well, there that Mathew Collins guy who used to be National Front and a Nazi and then joined Searchlight/Hope Not Hate and now writes books for them. Sonia Gable started out as a Nazi and then married Gable of Searchlight/Hope Not Hate. There’s a former Nazi guy who’s now HNH or UAF and he’s mentioned sometimes on Facebook. I have known many who have done this but how could I ‘prove’ it? You can screenshot everything. How could I prove that people I’ve known, who aren’t famous or on the Internet, moved from being Trots to Nazi hooligans or the other way around?

      The fact is, why are you surprised? Nazi and Commies/Trots are both totalitarians. They both hate capitalism. They both hate Zionists, Jews and Israel. They both believe in political violence. They both believe in revolution and promise a new world order or zero unemployment, selfless leaders, etc. They both hate America. They both rely on ‘vanguards’. They both hate parliamentary democracy and democracy generally. They both always talk about the Media being X and not expressing their views. They are both tiny and sect-like. They both rely on conspiracy theories and see the world in black-and-white terms….

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  4. Esther,

    Expect to see these blogs re-posted.

    If you are going to pretend to be a 'fluffy Leftist', I suggest you don't say things like 'Trots and Commies don't believe in totalitarian systems'.

    You never did believe that the Far Left and Far Right were equally extreme, did you? It was a ruse to get me to take the posts down 'by any means necessary'. Clearly, the posts did you damage as well to the Leftist causes and hypocrisies you support. The fluffiness was a pose from start to finish. Your total support of not only Islam, but now also of Trotskyism and Communism, makes it clear that I was right all along. And that predictable dig a 'Zionism' is the icing on the cake - what did I expect from a Far Leftist? You don't define your Leftism - I do (from what you actually say).

    Our conversation is well and truly over. I was right all along about you.

    In fact, I've been a bit gullible for letting you speak on here. And is The Anonymous Advocate your Muslim daughter?

    Bye bye.

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    1. Oh, one more thing. I wouldn't bother commenting here again because I won't waste any more time reading them. I will delete them immediately.

      Do you really think I will give a 'platform' to a person who reported me, along with her gang of Trots and Commies, to Facebook on at least ten occasions? You must think I'm a fool. I only ban and delete those who try to ban others or enforce a no platform policy.

      And since you have lied about your politics, I don't believe a single word you have said - including the many personal/family connections you seem to have to every subject under the sun.

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  5. You must be desperate to link up with Bonehill and Wood. Or is this your Twitter shitter? https://twitter.com/SLATHnHscum/status/372087030148497408/photo/1

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    1. I have no idea who these people are. I don't even have a Twitter account. But my being 'far right' means that you won't believe me. There's nothing I can do about that. In any case, are you making the silly mistake of concluding that if these people use my info or my blog posts that I must know them?

      Also, I may be a 'fantasist', as you put it, but if you look at my Feedjit gadget (see below), I can see who is accessing my blog, where they are and what they are doing. I have seen that you have 'searched' your name, Esther Angel, almost every day for the last month or more. Some times up to three times in one day. I think the last time was yesterday. Now if I'm a 'fantasist', you are a psychotic, self-obsessed Leftist. I now see that your main problem was not just with my politics, it was about YOU and the fact that I blogged about you.

      But why do you think I'd spend any more time on Esther Angel after those posts of over two months ago? You are a non-entity. Not even a leader of Hope Not Hate or any other group.

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    2. Yes, I have been sharing around your blog for the giggles in the last month. It's been clear that Joshua Bonehill and Alex Wood have been using your blog and if you look at that Twitter feed, they are building a whole new reality out of it based on your initial blogs. It is extremely funny!
      If you do not know who Bonehill and Wood are, then you need to educate yourself fast about them. Oh, and if you can trace me, then please trace their activity on your blog. Not that they will ever comment.
      Thanks for the LULZ, though. Your blogs have been turned into an unintentional comedy freak show by JB and AW. They are doing a better job at discrediting what you wrote than I ever could.
      Feel free to message me on FB, I have seen you're back on there posting and left comments under your post in Kuffars. I will be happy to give you the facts of what we know about JB and AW. Genuine offer. And thanks for telling me how one can track activity on blogs. BALE must use the same features on their blog. Btw it's not me who sees things as "you won't believe it because I'm on the opposite side". That's you, Paul, not me. And that attitude has lead to your half baked blogs.

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  6. I have no idea who these people are. I don't even have a Twitter account. But my being 'far right' means that you won't believe me. There's nothing I can do about that. In any case, are you making the silly mistake of concluding that if these people use my info or my blog posts that I must know them?

    Also, I may be a 'fantasist', as you put it, but if you look at my Feedjit gadget (see below), I can see who is accessing my blog, where they are and what they are doing. I have seen that you have 'searched' your name, Esther Angel, almost every day for the last month or more. Some times up to three times in one day. I think the last time was yesterday. Now if I'm a 'fantasist', you are a psychotic, self-obsessed Leftist. I now see that your main problem was not just with my politics, it was about YOU and the fact that I blogged about you.

    But why do you think I'd spend any more time on Esther Angel after those posts of over two months ago? You are a non-entity. Not even a leader of Hope Not Hate or any other group.

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  7. Finally you have realised I have fck all to do with Hope Not Hate? That's taken you a while! So why have you written three blogs on a non entity like myself? LOL

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  8. Maybe this will interest you. This is the games Bonehill plays:

    Maggie Chapman's sister is fighting back - posted in several places now after a DDoS hack attack on Nikki's own website:
    http://joshbonehead.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/joshua-bonehill-nikki-pilkington-and.html

    My inbox is open on FB, I do not have you blocked. Feel free to have a chat. It's not me who is refusing to talk.

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  9. What a load of tosh, how can you support the nuckle dragging edl ? That makes you one in my book all you are is an uneducated mouthpiece

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  10. What a load of tosh, how can you support the nuckle dragging edl ? That makes you one in my book all you are is an uneducated mouthpiece

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    1. And how can you support the fascists in UAF and SWP and in your own group? Leftists are just a mirror image of fascists. They are exactly the same. Even the watch on the left hand goes on the right hand in the image. As Paul has listed, the similarities are all essential, while the differences are superficial. Onle likes the color brown, the other black.

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