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Tuesday, 8 March 2011

We should do to the poppy burners what would be done to us in Islamic countries






[Right: Judge Riddle (a 'right-wing bigot'?), who imposed a £50 fine on Islamists who want to destroy his country. A similar judge imposed a seven-year inprisonment on all the Gateshead Koran-burners.]

EDL Extra comments on the Daily Mail article, '£50 insult to Britain's war dead: Veteran's fury as poppy burner enjoying a life on benefits gets paltry fine and mocks soldiers', by Emily Andrews, 8th March, 2011. (Comments are in red.)

Despite saying he would pay more for a parking fine, Choudhury said he would not pay up

As a British citizen, Emdadur Choudhury enjoys benefits including a free council flat and almost £800 a month state handouts. [A bit like Abu Hamza and all the other Islamoterrorists who hate the West so much that they still like to enjoy our benefits system – a system that asks few questions if you’re a Brown Exotic Islamist. They must be laughing at us. Indeed they have admitted as much. It’s called destroying the system from the inside. It’s what Salma Yaqoob, Luftar Rahman and many Trots are also trying to do.]

Yesterday he laughed at justice as he was handed a paltry £50 fine for setting light to poppies on Remembrance Day and yelling ‘British soldiers burn in hell’. [And to think that those EDL boys from Gateshead may be facing up to seven years for burning the Koran! (By the way, what’s the situation with these guys? Have the Islamophiles imposed their draconian sentence yet?)]

After hearing his penalty, which outraged war veterans, the 26-year-old father of two declared: ‘I don’t have any respect for British soldiers, and if they lose a limb or two in Afghanistan then they deserve it. You expect me to feel sorry for them? Of course I don’t.’ [We don’t expect anything from these Islamists. That’s why they must be destroyed as political agents – or at least their destructive activities must be immediately ended.]

Choudhury, from Bethnal Green, East London, was found guilty of using threatening or abusive words or behaviour by District Judge Howard Riddle, following a one-day trial last month.

The maximum fine possible was £1,000, plus legal costs, and Judge Riddle said he had no doubt Choudhury had set out to shock and offend. Yet he fined him only £50, plus a £15 victim surcharge. [And the Left thinks, or pretends to believe, that the judiciary are all ‘right-wing bigots’! That might have been the case in the 1970s or even further back in the 1950s. But today they too have been spoon-fed political correctness and Leftist pieties about Islam and whatnot; just as the police chiefs and the police commissionaires have. The Left call these people ‘the arm of the state’. Which state is that? The one that unthinkingly adopts Marxist theories sometimes without even knowing it?]

Although Choudhury sneered that he would have been fined more than £50 for a parking offence, he is refusing to pay. However the bill will be picked up by his ‘good friend’ Anjem Choudary, the notorious firebrand preacher. [That’s called ‘taking the piss’. And I for one, along with the rest of the EDL, don’t like getting the piss taken out of us and we will do everything within our powers to stop these sick Islamists from corrupting and ruining our country.]

SO WHY WAS HE JUST CHARGED WITH A PUBLIC ORDER OFFENCE?

Emdadur Choudhury was charged with an offence under Section 5 of Public Order Act 1986. Under the act, a person is guilty of an offence if they use either, threatening abusive or insulting words, disorderly behaviour, or display any writing, sign or visible representation that he threatening or insulting. [That’s all fair enough. But the political reality and danger of what these people did, and still do, seems to have been completely overlooked by the judge concerned. It is indeed about ‘insult’ and ‘abuse’. But it’s also about Islamist revolutionaries trying to wreck and ruin the UK and the West as a whole. The judge didn’t have a single word to say about this aspect of their sick endeavours. That would have made the judge imperil Community Cohesion and threaten the Islamist use and abuse of state multiculturalism.]

The maximum sentence for this offence is six months, while the highest fine imposable by a court is £1,000. The judge could also have imposed a community sentence such as unpaid work. However because the defendant is understood to have no prior criminal convictions, the judge would not have considered a custodial sentence.

Choudhury could also have been charged under Section 31 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, which is racially or religiously aggravated public order offence. This offence also carries a maximum sentence of six months, but the level of fine can reach £2,500. [This would have been a better, or an additional, way to deal with these Islamist upstarts.]

The defendant could also have faced charges of an incitement or racial hatred under the Public Order Act. [That would have been more like it. Bring the whole force of the law down upon these fanatics. After all, they would destroy British law completely if they had even half the chance to do so.]

This offence relates to deliberately provoking hatred of a racial group. Among the offences listed as arrestable are making inflammatory public speeches and inciting inflammatory rumours about an individual or an ethnic group.

Choudhury, whose parents are Bangladeshi immigrants who came to Britain for a better life, was a leading member of a demonstration by the so-called Muslims Against Crusaders on November 11.

During the two-minute silence he was caught on camera unfurling several large plastic poppies and dousing them in petrol before setting them alight. [Scum!]

The protesters, who had gathered near the Royal Albert Hall close to the finish of a charity walk to commemorate service personnel, also repeatedly yelled ‘Burn British soldiers, burn in hell’. [But these Muslims believe that all non-Muslims are destined to burn in hell. So every one of us, black, white, Sikh, Hindu, etc., should fight against these people. It is quite simply a matter of survival. We do not have the option of appeasement because such a thing never works.]

Choudhury and his co-accused Mohammed Haque, 30, who was cleared of the same charge for lack of evidence, could not even be bothered to attend Belmarsh Magistrates’ Court for the verdict.

The court heard that Choudhury works part time as a satellite engineer and earns £480 a month. He also receives a monthly total of £792 in state benefits, comprising £240 working tax credit; £432 child tax credit and £120 a month child benefit. [What’s the benefits system like in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Somalia, the Sudan, etc? Oh, non-existent; especially when it comes to the non-Muslims who are unfortunate enough to live in this earthly hellholes.]

Judge Riddle said: ‘Shocking and offending people is sometimes a necessary part of effective protest. Here, an obvious consequence of this process was to show disrespect for dead soldiers.

‘The two-minute chanting, when others were observing a silence, followed by a burning of the symbol of remembrance, was a calculated and deliberate insult to the dead and those who mourn or remember them. If the memory of dead soldiers is publicly insulted at a time and place where there is likely to be gathered people who have expressly attended to honour those soldiers, then the threat to public order is obvious.

‘Here it is hard to imagine that a public order disturbance was not intended.’ [Never! Aren’t our judges clever?]

Later, in a park near his home, a defiant Choudhury said: ‘The poppy disgusts me – it’s not to do with World War One or World War Two veterans, it’s all about raising money for soldiers injured in the wars now. [You shouldn’t be surprised by the disgusting things these Muslims say. Their political faith, Islamism, is itself the embodiment of sickness and psychosis.]
‘I’m not being disrespectful for burning it, I’m being honourable. It’s all about shock and awe, to get these soldiers out of Muslim lands.’ [Why not speak, for once, about Muslims killing Muslims, as they do, and have done, on a massive scale in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, the Sudan, and Somalia. I would bet that more Muslims have died at the hands of Islamism than by non-Muslims. But because of the sickness that is Islamism, that doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter because in Islam it is not such a bad thing for a Sunni to kill a Shia, or a Shia to kill a Sunni, or for both Sunni and Shia to kill Ahmadiyya, or for anyone of them to kill ‘bad Muslims’. As long as it’s not the kuffar that's doing the killing of Muslims. That’s why Salma Yaqoob has never said a single word about Muslims killing Muslims in the Sudan, in Somalia, and, indeed, in lovely Palestine. Again, Islamic internecine wars are acceptable if the Islamic cause is right.]

Asked if he would do it again, he replied laughing: ‘You’ll have to find out next time, won’t you? The only reason I even got a fine is cos it’s politically motivated. I would have got a bigger fine for a parking ticket than this. [Doesn’t he contradict himself here? Firstly he says that the ‘only reason [he] got a fine is cos it’s politically motivated’. Then he says ‘I would have got a bigger fine for a parking ticket than this’. Er? If the fine was ‘politically motivated’, then why the hell did this stupid judge fine this Muslim less than a parking ticket? If political motivations were behind all this, this runt would have been strung up!]

District Judge Howard Riddle made the decision to impose the fine on Choudhury, something that left Shaun Rusling and fellow veterans 'disgusted'

‘It’s my freedom of speech and I’m exercising that. I’m being persecuted for it. This fine, I will wear it as a badge on my shoulder. I did it for Allah. I did it to raise awareness that these so-called soldiers are the criminals. They are the ones who should be tried for war crimes.’ [There is no such thing as complete freedom of speech. There never has been. And there should never be complete freedom. For example, no one can publicly encourage paedophilia or lie about a fire to the police or the public. No one can say a bomb has gone off when it hasn’t. The EDL can’t even speak out against Islam or the Koran. So this juvenile Muslim should get his theory of free speech in order before mouthing off like a first-year student.]

Sinisterly he promised that he had ‘2,000 youths who will follow me and do whatever I tell them – you don’t want another Afghanistan here do you? We want Sharia law in this country, and Inshallah [God willing] we will get it’. [How far are we going to let these people go before they are stopped in their tracks? What is it about our judges and leaders? Do they still think these people are buffoons or cartoon characters who don’t really threaten us? Or are they slaves to political correctness and Community Cohesion? Didn’t 7/7 and the many foiled Islamist terrorist attacks in the UK teach these moral and political cretins anything?]

Shaun Rusling, of the National Gulf War Veterans and Families Association, said: ‘I think the British people would be disgusted with the sentence handed out.

Remembrance Day is very special for those in the Armed Forces, when we remember those who have lost their lives for freedom and fighting for their country.

‘It is a personal insult to all of them. I am personally insulted, any veteran would be personally insulted by them burning a poppy. I don’t think it is an acceptable sentence at all.’

A spokesman for the Royal British Legion said: ‘The poppy is the symbol of sacrifice and valour. It offers everyone an opportunity to reflect on the human cost of conflicts past and present.

‘The two-minute silence is a time for such reflection, and not for political protests or public disorder. We are confident that this is understood and supported by most people.’

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