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Jack Straw: "We need to get the Pakistani community to think much more clearly about why this is going on."
Former home secretary Jack Straw has been accused of "stereotyping" after suggesting some men of Pakistani origin see white girls as "easy meat". [Some ‘stereotypes’ are true. For example, is it stereotypical to say that all hardware shops sell hammers and nails? Also, this is not a racial stereotype. It is not a position on all Asians but a specific group: Muslim Pakistanis. Straw's statement is about a culture – not race. Surely we can accept that we can make certain - or many - generalisations about it. For example, not many accept Nazi culture, or head-hunting culture. When someone criticises Nazi culture, he does not think that this has anything to do with Nazis being white. So Pakistani Muslims do have a culture of infidel hate, Islamic ‘booty’, women hate, etc.]
The Blackburn Labour MP spoke out as two Asian men who abused girls in Derby were given indeterminate jail terms.
Keith Vaz, chairman of the home affairs select committee, said it was wrong to "stereotype an entire community" and a proper inquiry was needed. [He isn’t. He is specifically talking about Pakistani Muslims, not all Muslims or Asians. Thus what would be wrong with ‘stereotyping’ young Pakistani Muslims?]
A Barnados spokesman said vulnerable children of all races were at risk. [Does that include young Pakistan girls? No it doesn’t in this case! Of course all races sufferer from child abuse. But, in this case, we are dealing with a specific group – Pakistani Muslims.]
Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Muslim youth group the Ramadhan Foundation, rejected any suggestion that the abuse was "ingrained" in the UK's Pakistani community. [It is so because it is 'ingrained' in the Koran and later Islamic texts and also in Muslim actions/behaviour.]
On Friday, Mohammed Liaqat, 28, and Abid Saddique, 27, were jailed at Nottingham Crown Court for raping and sexually abusing several girls aged between 12 and 18.
The judge in the case said the race of the victims and their abusers was "coincidental". [No, it isn’t ‘coincidental’. Pakistani Muslims rape and pimp white girls because the prophet told his followers not to respect the kuffar. Even Muslim women are second-class citizens in Islamic states. So imagine how little respect the average Pakistani Muslim has for kuffar women.]
But, in an interview for the BBC's Newsnight programme, Mr Straw said there was a "specific problem" in some areas where Pakistani men "target vulnerable white girls". He called on the Pakistani community to be "more open" about the abuse. [Rape doesn’t really exist in Islam or in Islamic states. In Pakistan, the rape victim is deemed to be the guilty one and she is also required to have four male witnesses of the rape.]
Mr Straw said: "Pakistanis, let's be clear, are not the only people who commit sexual offences, and overwhelmingly the sex offenders' wings of prisons are full of white sex offenders.' [No one is claiming that Muslims are the only people abusing women and girls. And of course there will be more white sex offenders than Muslims in the UK because white males far outnumber Muslim or Pakistani males. It is proportions we must think about. There is a low proportion of child and women-abusing males compared against the whole population of male whites. However, we can see that proportionate to their numbers, Pakistani Muslim commit these crimes far more than any other group proportionate to their complete numbers. It would almost be definitionally impossible for Muslims to abuse women and girls more than whites because Pakistan Muslims constitute a smaller social group.]
"But there is a specific problem which involves Pakistani heritage men... who target vulnerable young white girls.
"We need to get the Pakistani community to think much more clearly about why this is going on and to be more open about the problems that are leading to a number of Pakistani heritage men thinking it is OK to target white girls in this way." [There must be reasons for this. The EDL knows why. But Jack Straw doesn’t mention Islam. He daren’t mention Islam! Thus his questions to Muslims - and others - will never gain a satisfactory answer because the truth, Islam’s misogyny, etc., can never be discussed.]
Mr Straw added: "These young men are in a western society, in any event, they act like any other young men, they're fizzing and popping with testosterone, they want some outlet for that, but Pakistani heritage girls are off-limits and they are expected to marry a Pakistani girl from Pakistan, typically.” [I have personally come across Muslims who believe that every non-Muslim girl or woman is a ‘whore’. It’s also built into both Islam and the Muslim community.]
"So they then seek other avenues and they see these young women, white girls who are vulnerable, some of them in care... who they think are easy meat."
But Helen Brayley, from University College London's Jill Dando Institute of Security and Crime Science, said people should not draw hasty conclusions.
Ms Brayley, who wrote the first independent academic analysis of child sex trafficking, said: "When you jump in with thinking about race too quickly, you can miss a whole load of other things that are happening in other areas. [Yes, I agree. Forget race. This is about the nature of Islam and thus the nature of Muslim communities.] "So by racially stereotyping this early on without a national scoping project...we don't know what the situation is in other areas around the country, that you might be leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy of if people are looking for Asian offenders, they will only find Asian offenders."
Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Muslim youth group the Ramadhan Foundation, said it was important that people stopped throwing accusations and worked together.
"It's a form of racism that's abhorrent in a civilised society."
But he added: "These gangs that operate are criminals. There's nothing in their culture, there's nothing in their religion to suggest that this sort of thing is ingrained." [Yes there is! ‘Allah has promised you booty if you fight for Allah.’]
"And for Jack Straw, a former home secretary, to suggest that this somehow is ingrained within young Pakistani men, I think is quite dangerous." [The behaviour of Pakistani Muslims is what is ‘dangerous’. How can truth be dangerous? Perhaps it is in certain circumstances.]
Mr Vaz, who said he represented many men of Pakistani origin in his Leicester constituency, told the BBC's Today programme: "What I don't think we can do is say that this is a cultural problem. One can accept the evidence which is put before us about patterns and networks but to go that step further I think is pretty dangerous."
Martin Narey, chief executive of Barnardo's, called for more research to be carried out. [There will be no ‘research’ on the behaviour of Muslims qua Muslims, or qua Islam.] He said: "I don't think this is so much about targeting white girls - because black girls are also victims - it's about targeting vulnerable, isolated girls." [Except for Muslim girls and Muslim daughters.]
Sheila Taylor, who is Chair of the National Working Group for Sexually Exploited Children and Young People, said the issue needed deeper examination.
Liaqat and Saddique were the ringleaders of a mainly Muslim gang which groomed and abused vulnerable girls.
Many of the gang's victims were given alcohol or drugs before being forced to have sex in cars, rented houses or hotels across the Midlands.
Saddique, from Normanton, Derby, was jailed for at least 11 years and Liaqat, from the Sinfin area of the city, was locked up for a minimum of eight years.