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Friday, 5 November 2010

The 'DIY jihadists' paid for by us... Roshonara Choudhry supporters are living on benefits

[The Mail Online article follows the comment; after the dotted line.]

These jihadists haven’t quite got to grips with Islamic taqiyya. That is, they tell the truth about their religion. Roshonara ‘stabber’ Choudhry actually refers to her personal act of jihad and the resultant martyrdom: ‘It’s in the Koran.’ And yet the Taqiyya merchants of the MCB, MPACUK and the Quilliam Foundation say that it’s not in the Koran. Or they say things like ‘The actual word “jihad” is not in the Koran’. Maybe not in Arabic; actually I don’t believe even that. However, the concept [jihad] is certainly in the Koran, even if the actual word isn’t. And the word ‘fighting’, in Arabic, is certainly there. So let’s get a bit more aggressive towards the Taqiyya merchants who treat all kuffar like the Left likes to be treated.

Many of these Muslim hypocrites secretly love living in the West. They love the notoriety they receive. They love the benefits they get. They love pimping and drug pushing. They love downloading porn on college computers. They love the freedom which they have to spread their barbaric medieval nonsense. Thus this love-hate attitude towards the West really gets them mad. They know that most Islamic states are pretty backward and only publish about one book a year (usually on the Koran or Mohammed). They know the West is the best. They know that walking around in pyjamas and silly beards makes them the laughing stock of the UK. Thus a vast amount of anger and resentment begins to fill their minds. And that’s why they kill.

*) Of course the majority of young Muslim ‘sympathise with our sister Roshonara’. She only did what Islam and the Koran demands of her. What can be wrong with that? Only the older generation of Muslims pretend to be against jihad. That’s because they have their taxi firms and corner shops to run. But they know, that come the day, they would be jihadists like the rest of them. Still, the slice of stability they have now, along with all those decadent Western titillations which they love so much, stops them from acting rashly – as the young ones do!

*) Why didn’t the police just arrest these jihadists in the court? Why wait until they kill civilians? These Islamist have publicly and explicitly said what they want to do – kill infidels – so why wait for such deaths to appear on the news? If EDL members can be arrested for ‘hate crimes’ or ‘hate speech’, simply for telling the truth about the mass-killer Mohammed, then why can’t these Islamists be arrested for hate crimes and hate speech? Oh, I forgot, they are Brown and Exotic and Western liberals and leftists, in their racist manner, don’t expect much morality or decency from the browns.

Thus no one dare touch these specimens of pure sucking scum. Again, surely ‘British soldiers must die’ and the ‘working class are riff raff’ are example of hate speech! Or were the laws surrounding hate speech and hate crimes specifically designed to discipline the white man or members of groups like the EDL? Of course they were! And everyone knows that!


By Sue Reid, 5th November 2010, from the Mail Online

They refuse to apologise for their vile rant at the Old Bailey that made a mockery of our justice system.

Nor are they repentant over ­supporting the radical Muslim woman on trial there for trying to kill an MP in a knife attack.

As 21-year-old London University student Roshonara Choudhry was sentenced to life on Wednesday, they cursed the judge from the public gallery and hurled abuse at a terrified female juror wearing a Muslim headscarf, screaming ‘Shame on you, sister’.

Mohammed Shamsuddin, 34, said 'the majority of Muslims sympathise with our Sister Roshonara' - the woman who tried to kill Stephen Timms.

The three agitators were then bundled out of court where, incredibly, were allowed to continue their poisonous rant. With faces twisted in fury, they waved banners saying ‘Islam will dominate the World’, yelled ‘British soldiers must die’, and screamed that the knifed Labour MP, Stephen Timms, should be killed.

Extremist website that inspired stabbing of Stephen Timms urges Muslims to 'raise the knife of jihad' to other MPs

Until now, they have been unidentified. But the Mail can reveal their names and that they operate at the centre of a dangerous organisation intent on bringing hard-line Islamic sharia law to Britain and flying the flag of Islam over Downing Street.

They warned me that Choudhry is only one of hundreds of home-grown ‘DIY jihadists’ – many female and some recently converted to Islam – prepared to die as martyrs.

I met two of the protesters in a coffee bar in Ilford, East London, after receiving a call from an intermediary within the fanatical group Islam4uk. I found that both are living on ­benefits, one claiming to suffer from chronic fatigue disorder, while they orchestrate an Islamic backlash against Britain.

Although both use Islamic pseudonyms – Abu Saalihah and Abu Abdullah – their birth names are Mohammed Shamsuddin and Mohammed Haroon Saleem. As Shamsuddin, 34, told me: ‘The majority of Muslims sympathise with our Sister Roshonara. They view her as their heroine now.
‘The Islamic websites and forums are full of messages of support for her and anger at the Old

Bailey judge. Men and women are inflamed by the harshness of the sentence she was given.’

Shamsuddin and Saleem, along with a third radical, East London office administrator Abu Yahya, 27, (who refused to give his birth name) escaped scot free after the Old Bailey outrage despite some MPs’ demands for their arrest for contempt of court.

‘We were told by a police officer outside the court that the judge had sent us a message to say, “Don’t do this again and you’ll be all right”. I would have gone to prison for a week and was surprised I wasn’t sent there. I would happily have done so,’ said Shamsuddin, with a smile playing on his bearded face.

Saleem, 29, added: ‘It is going to happen again, I promise you.'

We won’t stop. There are plenty of young Muslims who are angry and frustrated. They think they are treated as second-class citizens.

‘They want to take their fight on to the streets of Britain. It isgoing to get worse after this.’
The two men are obviously well-educated. Shamsuddin studied at Southampton’s Solent University and ran the Islamic Society there. He was brought up in North London, by his Indian parents who came to Britain 40 years ago. His father was the head chef at the Bombay Palace near Oxford Street, until his death two years ago.
He was radicalised after inviting Omar Bakri Mohammed (an extremist Muslim cleric now banned from Britain) to speak at the university. Shamsuddin now has four children, three girls and a boy. Two of them go to private schools at a cost of £2,000 a year each, although he is living off benefits at a family house in Walthamstow.

Saleem has four children, two girls and two boys, and lives in Ilford. He too is jobless and claiming benefits. ‘I used to be a quality controller at a meat factory but they laid people off last year. I am looking for another job,’ he told me.

It was after watching abhorrent hate-filled sermons by the fanatic Anwar al-Awlaki on the internet that Choudhry decided to attack Stephen Timms because he had voted in the Commons for Britain’s war with Iraq. Her Bengali family have, apparently, disowned their daughter and she refused to appear in person at the Old Bailey (saying she did not recognise the British justice system because it was not sharia law), receiving news of her sentence by video link in prison.
When I meet Shamsuddin and Saleem they appear polite. But their conversation is littered with hatred of non-Muslims.

The white working class are ‘riff raff’, they say, and non-Muslim women flaunt themselves as sex objects by putting on make up in the morning to attract men. As for the moderate Muslim Council of Britain, that is the puppet of Government ministers.

So why, I ask, did they shout abuse in a British court room at a woman juror from their own community? ‘It is unacceptable for one Muslim sister to condemn another,’ says Shamsuddin.
They may speak in moderate tones, but it is what they say that shocks.

These two radicals have never, so they say, trained at terror camps in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
They wouldn’t know how to put a bomb together (although they assure me plenty do and it is only a matter of time before one ‘gets through’).

Yet as they walk the streets of Britain with State money in their pockets and time to preach a divisive creed, it is hard not to conclude they are every...


  1. Their enablers, the British gov., the judiciary and MPs, ALSO walk around sponsored by tax-payer's money.

  2. simple solution. conform to UK laws and rule or leave, its the same for brits in muslim countries who have to conform to muslim laws.